Aug 01 2018 07:10 AM
Aug 01 2018 07:10 AM
Hello,
I came here because I find something wrong with Excel 2016 and Excel Online.
It's impossible to make changes in Excel 2016 and Excel online at the same time.
When one of the files is open in Excel Online,I got an error message in Excel 2016. We need to close the file and after that it's ok.
Do you know why? Because this problem is just for Excel, it works well on Powerpoint and Word.
Thanks!
Claire
Aug 01 2018 07:23 AM
Hi Claire,
In general they work together. Which error do you have?
Aug 01 2018 11:38 PM - edited Aug 01 2018 11:52 PM
Hi Sergei!
When I open my file I got an error message who says that the file is locked by the person who work on it.
It's in french but this is the error message:
Aug 02 2018 12:47 AM
Hi Claire
In my understanding, this is by design. You cannot co-author documents across Excel 2016 app and Excel Online at the same time, it has to be one or the other app.
I would suggest the following advice to avoid co-authoring issues by using Excel Online if you are collaborating in real-time with other users, and Excel 2016 app when you need more features (Excel Online is limited in features) to update the workbook with.
Hope that helps!
Cheers
Damien
Aug 02 2018 02:00 AM
Aug 02 2018 03:19 PM
Damien, why not?
Here is the same file which I'm editing simultaneously in Excel Online and Excel 2016
Aug 02 2018 03:30 PM
Claire,
It's hard to say. I've seen few times error like this, Excel says the file is locked by yourself but actually it's opened by another person, as I remember in Excel 2013. I guess something was wrong with SharePoint caches. But that's quite seldom.
If you have that permanently and you know for sure nobody else is working with file - when have no guess
Aug 02 2018 05:08 PM
Thanks for the info buddy, I'm experiencing something different at my workplace (see image below).
I'm editing in Excel 2016 app but can't do it from Teams or Excel Online.
I did a bit of digging and am wondering whether I have a version mismatch which is preventing co-authoring across these different apps at the same time? If I co-author in Excel Online with others, no issue. If I co-author in Excel 2016 there's no issue. We only get the issue when we cross apps.
Might have to do some more digging on this.
@Deleted it may be that you are experiencing a similar issue to me. I do suggest giving the Excel Online option a go, and/or try co-authoring in Excel 2016 with other people to see if that works too.
In terms of file locked, per the image above, I find it happens when another app has edit rights and locks me out. Might be worth checking if the file is opened by an app or by another user. I find sometimes people leave the doc open and forget to close it.
Just my two cents. I really do hope that something we're saying here helps to find a way forward.
Best wishes Claire and please do let us know if the Excel Online option helps?
Cheers
Damien
Aug 03 2018 12:52 AM
Hi !
@Sergei Baklan thanks for your answers!
@Damien Rosario I got the same issues that you, I tried with my co-worker and co-authoring works well on Excel Online, but on Excel 2016 it works for the first person on the document.
But thank you for your digging, it helped me to understand the issue! I think the solution is to co-authoring on Excel online and be careful not to have the document open in multiple places.
Claire
Aug 03 2018 02:07 AM
Hi @Damien Rosario,
And what is Versioning setting for you document library?
If "Yes" most probably the file will be locked, you can't check out already checked-out file. Will play with it some later.
Aug 03 2018 03:26 AM - edited Aug 03 2018 03:55 AM
SPO document library, settings gear on top right->Library settings->Versioning Settings->Require Check Out at the bottom
But I'm not sure that's the reason, Excel shall ask for checkin/checkout, not to lock the file
Aug 05 2018 06:27 PM
Hi @Deleted
Great to hear that the co-authoring option in Excel Online has helped with the issue.
I suspect not every business will have the latest Office build which may cause this sort of issue (e.g. we hold off on pushing updates until we test it to make sure that it doesn't break anything or opens security threats to our users).
Play with the tech and see what works for you.
Wishing you a very happy week ahead!
Cheers
Damien
Aug 05 2018 06:36 PM
I checked out my settings and it Required Check Out is set to No.
An interesting issue!
Cheers
Damien