08-19-2019 03:51 PM
08-19-2019 03:51 PM
Hello insiders, we’re listening!
Over these past months we have been busy reading all the great feedback you've been sending us through the "Send feedback" smiley, here on the insider forum, and to our @MSEdgeDev Twitter handle. As we go through the feedback, common themes, popular suggestions, and bugs with broad impact emerge. We've been highlighting this "top feedback" within the team, and we'd like to share it with you as well. Starting with this post, we will regularly summarize the most significant feedback we are hearing from you and give you an update on the status of each item. We'll also highlight some of the changes we've made that were inspired or prioritized because of your feedback. Check out the list below, and of course use this forum thread to share your thoughts and discuss.
Your feedback has directly led to many improvements. Here are just some of the most notable, now available in the Canary channel:
Here are some top feedback topics we plan to address in the coming months. (Of course, plans can change. We'll make sure to let you know if timing or direction shift on any of these.)
Planned to be addressed in the Canary channel in September 2019:
Planned to be addressed in the Canary channel in October 2019:
The team is reviewing the following feature requests and we'll be sure to let you know if they're getting ready to show up in one of our channels:
Finally, there are a few areas where you've told us our quality needs to improve. We are investigating these areas and will fix specific bugs when they are identified:
You can help in these areas by keeping the bug reports coming. Whether you have a major issue or a minor glitch, if you see something, click the "Send feedback" smiley and tell us briefly what happened. Every report helps!
Thank you all for being insiders. Your feedback motivates and inspires us, and we genuinely appreciate it. We look forward to sharing these updates on a regular basis to show how you're helping to set the direction of the next version of Microsoft Edge.
Microsoft Edge Team
08-19-2019 04:31 PM - edited 08-19-2019 04:35 PM
Uh, where is this magical "Send Feedback Smiley"?
I would have rather done that than create a "discussion thread", rather than having to deal with some people who can't help themselves abusing others simply for suggesting additional features.
08-19-2019 04:36 PM - edited 08-19-2019 04:47 PM
hmmm... The full menu shows for me, and there's no smiley face.
Let me try some things. Nope, trying IE Core or disabling Ad Blocker doesn't do anything.
BTW, I'm using 360Chrome as my browser.
Let's try Canary.
Nope, still seeing the full menu... here's a pic.
As you can see, my menu looks NOTHING like yours???
08-19-2019 04:48 PM
Linux support is definitely a feature request we're tracking. We don't have a plan at this time, but we're reviewing it alongside other feature requests. Make sure to add your voice to the chorus by sending feedback if you haven't already.
08-20-2019 02:18 AM
It is helpful to have this overview of what is planned and what is still being reviewed and considered. While it is disappointing that two of the items on my wish list (tab set aside and the download options) are only in the "team is reviewing" stage, it is good to know that I should not look for them in the near future.
Thanks to you and the team for the transparency and the confirmation that the feedback process is working.
08-20-2019 02:48 AM - edited 08-20-2019 02:50 AM
These are top features you should bring back to Edge.
These special features will make Super Useful and Different from the other Browsers .
Timeline support would be nice also .
08-20-2019 04:41 AM
So a bunch of great things coming. Though I'd like to mention that if "Set tabs aside" is brought back, allow us to hide that button.
And in regards to Reading List and the upcoming Favorites button, please bring back the entire hub (including downloads, history, etc.). Being able to pin that sidebar made for a great UX.
08-20-2019 05:57 AM
This is a great plan for the future of the Edge insider. I hope the Edge team accept those suggestions after reviewing them, specially this one:
- Bring back features from the current version of Microsoft Edge such as tab set aside, tab preview, "Ask Cortana", and the reading list
08-20-2019 07:07 AM
08-20-2019 09:45 AM - edited 08-20-2019 09:46 AM
I don't understand why people are having problem with the rounded-corner tabs. The context menus with rounded corners are perfect and if I remember correctly, this design will be used throughout the whole OS in the future. Please do not change this. We need consistency. All we need is something like this:
By adding more Fluent, the browser will look very different (which means different from Chrome). The download manager is horrifically bad right now, we need a hub, just like in the old Edge (or the second link above).
And please, add the "do not close with the last tab" option.
One more thing, when you start working on the new tab page, please take a look at ho Opera solved the problem.
This is an old screenshot but whatever, I think it looks awesome: https://i.imgur.com/QfQ6wGH.png
08-20-2019 10:18 AM
Oh I'm a sucker for acrylic/transparent top bars! totally agree with all of it except for the downloads part,
right now the downloads page got everything needed, the file type categories make them easier to browse and download history is also categorized by date. it's decent.
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08-20-2019 11:34 AM
@David Rubino Dear Dave, this is NOT ready for prime time in the enterprise until we have "pin to start menu" back. I run a development team and as developers we have somewhere between 10 to 20 windows open regularly. Our taskbar is hence a nightmare to navigate through already. And no... "pin to taskbar" is NOT a workaround. Some folks, especially highly productive folks, like to keep their taskbar as clean as possible. Less clutter leads to less confusion leads to more productivity.
Do NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT (is that enough NOTs for you) bring Edgium to production without "pin to start menu". Otherwise I will NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER (is that enough NEVERs for you) recommend Edgium in our workplace.
08-20-2019 11:52 AM - edited 08-20-2019 11:54 AM
The feature you want is already here.
go to any website, press the top-right menu button, navigate to Apps and select "install this site as an app". it will make a shortcut of that page in the start menu. this way it's also easier to mange all of the pins in the start menu from a central location which is in: edge://apps/
it also allows you to set permissions for every single one of those pins, great feature for enterprise users.
08-20-2019 11:59 AM
@David Rubino keep up the good work! As much as choosing Chromium as the base for the new Edge might have been controlversial, I really like where Edge is going. It's probably the fastest of all the Chromium-based ones I have tested so far.
Please, do something with the main toolbar and address bar. It's far too big! And give Acrylic a higher priority, too - I sometimes start the original Edge for some tasks and I love all the subtle effects the UI has. Might seem something so unimportant... but it is ;)
08-20-2019 12:10 PM
@David Rubino Dear Dave, Edgium is not ready for primetime in the consumer space without "pin to start menu".
I'm subscribed to the Dev and Canary channels of Edgium and use them regularly at home. While it looks promising I simply won't switch from Edge to Edgium without "pin to start menu". Why?
1) I don't like cluttering up my taskbar.
2) But more importantly... Microsoft has spit directly in our faces concerning almost everything consumer facing (except maybe XBox) for about 5 years straight now. As a result consumer focused developers have fled the Windows platform, as if it were a leper, leaving the MS Store less and less a place where we can go for consumer focused apps.
For example instead of being able to run Intuit's Mint product using an app... because Intuit pulled it from the MS Store back in 2015... like I can do on an iPhone... and iPad... a Samsung phone... or a Samsung tablet... I am forced to use their crappy/clunky website instead. But not wanting to switch over to an iPad, I reluctantly have mint dot com pinned to my Start menu, and have resigned myself to using the web site shortcut. I have tried Edgium's "install this site as an app" for use with Mint. It does NOT work well. Mint has not made a PWA version of their site and probably never will. It is not an "app" it's a "site". I know the difference, I build web-apps professionally, and Mint dot com is not a bloody app!
Bottom line... don't rub salt in our wounds. If we can't have real "apps" for things like most operating system's since oh... 2005 have had... then for crying out loud don't take away our "pin to start menu".
08-20-2019 12:16 PM - edited 08-20-2019 12:23 PM
I'm perfectly aware of the difference between PWAs and sites. Still my suggestion is correct.
it says "install this Site As an app", Not "install this app". the browser is smart enough to tell the difference between PWAs and sites, too.
what do you mean by it does not work well? AFAIK it doesn't have any bugs/problems.
I have pinned PWAs and normal sites altogether to my start menu without ANY problem. there is No need for end-users to know whether a site is a site or it actually is a PWA, the browser takes care of it automatically.
08-20-2019 12:29 PM
08-20-2019 01:19 PM
My concern is the status of C# support for WebView2. We can NOTHING hear about it from the initial announcement of WebView2 several month ago.
I have several C# projects that using WebView(MSHTML), but the adaptation work is completely stopped. Could you share the schedule about that?
08-20-2019 02:45 PM
Any chance of a new icon? The Edge icon is too similar to IE for the general public (when I tell people "click the Edge icon" they still don't know what that is and say they only see IE). This new browser is awesome and you guys are doing an incredible job with the quality and speed of development and listening to the users' feedback. With a totally new and Fluent icon like the Office apps and Your Phone received, it will intrigue users' curiosity on what that is and might make them give it a chance. It's far better than Chrome already, and it would suck if IE's old negative reputation tagged along with this.
Anyway, exciting times! Keep up the great work Edge team :D
08-20-2019 02:57 PM
First of all, how do I ask a new question? I can't see that option on the page.
Secondly, I abandoned Edge for Firefox because for no reason it deleted all my favourites from all my devices. I downloaded the new beta version of Edge, but despite signing in, it has not restored my favourites. Without them, and with the worry that it will do the same again when I rebuild my list of favourites, why should I change back? When Windows 10 first appeared, Edge was put forward as a great new browser, but in fact it had so many features missing it was hard to believe it had been developed by a company with decades of experience of internet browsers.
08-20-2019 04:50 PM
@David Rubino Thnk you and your team for hard eforts to make edge better every day. now there is one thing I miss from old edge, a notification to close opining tabs. this feature is what brevent me from using chrome as main browser and keep using IE and than Edge. please pring it back for edgium.
08-20-2019 04:57 PM
While I see some of the suggestions I made in this Microsoft Edge Insider forum in your post, sadly there is no sign of the one thing I need to use it as my general browser, at the moment or in the future. For me to even consider using a browser as my default browser it MUST support middle-clicking on a favourite in a folder dropdown menu from the favourites bar opening that favourite in a new background tab (which it does) but then LEAVING THE DROPDOWN MENU OPEN for further clicks on other favourites in the list, which it currently doesn't. Current Edge does this, IE does it (or did last time I used it, which was awhile ago), and Firefox does it. Google Chrome is the only other browser I have used at all in a lot of years that does NOT support the middle click on a favourites bar favourite leaving the menu open for further selections; and that is why I won't even consider using Google Chrome other than sending the very occasional page to it that for some obscure reason doesn't 'work' in Firefox (like maybe a dropdown menu won't accept input in Firefox). Barring that very rare maybe one web page per two months, I won't even think of using Google Chrome for browsing.
Sadly Edge Dev doesn't support this. and every time I think I'll try to start a browsing session using Edge Dev, that one deficiency sends me back to Firefox in minutes. So my Edge Dev testing is limited to checking the new features after updates, and throwing interesting pages over to it from Firefox (with the 'Send To Edge' extension button in Firefox, settings tweaked to send to Edge Dev rather than current Edge) every now and then to see if it copes with them.
I suppose having something other than middle-click would be acceptable (though a pain given 15 years of muscle memory middle-clicking links in favourites bar dropdown menus) provided than it was something easily done one handed. Currently in Edge Dev (like with Google Chrome) the only way I've found to open a favourite link while keeping the dropdown menu open is CTRL-LMB, which on my laptop for me is difficult and painful one handed, or requires me to sit up and twist round to use two hands every time I want to open multiple favourites in one menu, which disability makes very painful, so is not acceptable.
Really, this one thing and I'd be prepared to load up Edge Dev with a bunch more Google Chrome extensions than the couple of critical ones I've installed so far, and try using it as my default browser. Without it I won't, and if I get the impression that it's NOT ever going to be addressed (as Google have made clear over many years of many people asking about in Google Chrome) then I'll just give up on Edge and stop testing it. This is THE most important feature that chrome Edge needs for me and is a complete sine qua non for my adopting it. With it, I'd use Edge Dev now; without it it does not matter what magical other things you add; it's a complete deal breaker feature.
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08-20-2019 05:38 PM
I can't see how it could be impossible to do. The program can detect the middle click because it already does something different on middle-click - open in new background tab rather than the open in current tab of left click. I've read that at least with Google Chrome an extension can't do it the way one did in Firefox before Mozilla made it built in behaviour in Quantum, because extensions don't have access to WHICH button was pressed. But actually in the main program ... if Microsoft can't make that small kind of additional functionality, there's no reason for anyone to use chromium Edge over Google Chrome.
In fact, if Microsoft added the functionality to the Chromium base, there's a fair number of Google Chrome users who've been screaming fat Google or this for years who would be grateful to Microsoft.
08-20-2019 11:17 PM
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08-21-2019 02:32 AM
If the browser doesn't provide
- ability to change search engine to one that the user wants
- ability to hide any MS-specific interface features (such as a Bing bar)
then, personally, I am not interested. Wouldn't have it for my company either.
08-21-2019 02:39 AM
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08-21-2019 04:00 AM - edited 08-25-2019 06:46 AM
I'm glad to read about the upcoming improvements, but a little concerned that two (imho) important key features not showing up on your list.
1. In full screen mode, we need the ability to swipe-in tabs, address-bar and tool-bar like in classic Edge, otherwise full screen is completely unusable. Think of the millions of tablet users (like me), almost always working in full screen mode due to the limited screen size on tablets.
2. Please add the ability to sort favorites manually (drag & drop) on touchscreens. It does work with the mouse, but not with finger or pen. I know many users who like to sort their favs by workflow or personal preferences.
Can you please tell me if the above is in planning for upcoming releases?
08-21-2019 04:31 AM
Thanks for the update and the list of the already available and the upcoming improvements. For me and some others, "Edge on Windows Server" is missing... Like reported here: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Discussions/new-Edge-for-RDS-Server-2016-2019/m-p/423517#M674
and here: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Discussions/Edge-support-on-Server-OS/m-p/574383
Is there a statement from MS, if and when the new Edge is coming to Win Server?
08-21-2019 04:46 AM - edited 08-21-2019 08:13 AM
Oh, looks like you already started with it! That's music to my ears (eyes)!
Edit: @David Rubino I was glad too early... We where able to install Ent Dev V 78, but can't start it in an RDS or Citrix Session. Details described here: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Discussions/Edge-support-on-Server-OS/m-p/574383
08-21-2019 07:40 AM
@David Rubino Hello and thank you for the Chromium Edge.
I have a question, if you don't mind. "Continue on PC" functionality seems broken with the leaked "stable" channel. That feature is why I use Edge, basically. Uninstalling the stable Edgium reverted to the old Edge, and now Continue on PC works, but the "Send notification to linked PC" function has stopped working completely, sadly, even after a few resets/uninstalls of the Android/Win10 My Phone app and unlinking/relinking the phone.
Any insights on this specific functionality? Thank you.