04-22-2019 07:34 AM
04-22-2019 07:34 AM
Microsoft Edge’s new tab experience is designed to be a clean, delightful experience that helps you find what you need on the web and get you where you want to go next. Microsoft Edge starts with a new tab, and you can create more new tabs by clicking the “+” (next to existing tabs).
We’d love to hear what you like about our new tab experience, what doesn’t work for you, and anything more you’d like to see in this experience.
The default new tab layout uses a daily background wallpaper sourced from Bing’s image of the day collection. This experience also offers the standard in-page search box as well as quick link tiles .
Celebrating the image as the hero of this experience, we’ve created space across the middle for the picture to shine through.
In this layout, News is at your fingertips, just a scroll away To bring it up, you can either click the category headers along the bottom or scroll the page.
In the upper right is a quick way for you to choose various layouts for the page.
To see more layout choices, explore the settings flyout in the upper right corner of the page.
Focused layout has the fewest visual elements, giving you just the basics: a search box & quick link tiles.
This is our default layout, introduced above. Here’s a run through the core elements on the page:
Informational. Stay informed with news.
Informational layout balances news with search & recent sites. In this layout, the rich repository of news powered by Microsoft News is present to help you stay current on the topics you care about.
Other layout customizations
You can explore additional new tab page layout configurations by turning individual toggles on and off.
We would love to hear from you. What’s your favorite new tab layout? What additional new tab customization options do you want to have? Anything else you’d like to see changed on new tabs?
Thank you for trying out the new Microsoft Edge and leave your comments below!
04-22-2019 03:16 PM
@Elliot Kirk I have custom setting - with just image of the day turned on - I love the Bing wallpapers. The only thing is that the search bar across the image spoils it, so it would be good to have another customisation toggle to turn it on or off. As a matter of fact, I almost never use it - I always search from the address bar.
I'm fine with the arrangement for the news feed - it's handy to be able to either click on the headings at the bottom, or just scroll down, and just a CTRL+Home to get rid of it and return to the top is quick and simple.
04-22-2019 07:18 PM
I really like the inspirational view a lot. While I would've preferred to use my own wallpaper its still good the way it is. I would also like to be able to change the search bar to a custom search provider.
What I'm really missing is the option to grab and rearrange my favorite tiles. Also I miss the option to use a custom picture for the favorite tiles. I would also be really nice to have as many rows with my favorites as I like.
04-23-2019 08:11 AM
@Pete_FFC Yeah, option of toggle off the search bar. Interestingly, when you open a new tab, the URL bar is in focus (if you just start typing), and it can do searches anyway. The search bar in the tab page is actually redundant, even though most people expect a search bar to be there.
04-23-2019 09:24 AM - edited 04-24-2019 08:06 AM
@Elliot Kirk I encourage the team to consider additional checkbox options under "Custom", such that the search box and news can be turned off too, resulting in blank NTP if desired with no extension necessary. It seems like this would be easy win vs. the seemingly popular opinion that NTP search/news elements can't be turned off in browsers because the vendor wants to advertise the search/news service. It also allows people to turn off what they consider to be distracting.
If the team doesn't agree, then it might be wise to ensure there's at least one NTP customization extension in the Edge extension store during beta to measure popularity and ensure tester coverage on that type of extension. (There are a number of extensions on Chrome Web Store that blank the NTP, these do appear to work in Edge Dev but we have to pop out to the Chrome Web Store to get them.)
04-23-2019 01:08 PM
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04-23-2019 03:27 PM - edited 04-23-2019 03:33 PM
@Elliot Kirk I'm liking the new tab page so far, but do have some of the same suggestions above:
1). Ability to turn off the search bar (why is it needed when the omnibox functions as the search box?).
2). Ability to turn off the news feed entirely for those times extra focus is required.
and to add, unless I missed it:
3). Ability to change location of the news feed for those who live/travel abroad. I'd like to be able to click the settings gear icon and change it which is an option that was available on the old Edge new tab page.
Those seem to be the basics that are missing for me at the moment.
As a bonus: 4). The ability to set quick launch pages in place of "top sites." The UI is nice, but top sites is distracting whereas a minimal favorites-esque set up there would be more useful.
04-23-2019 04:48 PM - edited 04-23-2019 04:50 PM
A couple of observations:
04-23-2019 08:06 PM
04-23-2019 08:40 PM
04-23-2019 11:41 PM
@Elliot Kirk I really like having the news on the new tab page. On my small laptop I have Inspirational selected because I want to see the image, but I like that it's easy to get to the news. On my 27" desktop I prefer Informational because I have enough room for both the image and the news.
I must admit, I hadn't thought about how redundant the search box is, given that you can type into the address bar anyway...
04-24-2019 03:48 AM - edited 04-24-2019 03:52 AM
Hi @Elliot Kirk,
Great work! My suggestions would be:
1. To have the ability to put a friendly name when adding the links at the bottom rather than showing the URL.
2. Introduce the ability to edit an existinf link rather than deleting and recreating as current.
3. The ability to change the order of the links.
4. The default pages seems to look a bit too empty with just the search bar and the links. It might give it a bit of fullness to have the MS edge logo (with option to hide) in the top left-corner which would also indicate the Edge browser is being used in contrast to other browsers a user may have open. As its all going Chromium with MS Edge now coming into the mix, browsers are going to look similar. Others may be of another opinion on this...
04-25-2019 07:22 AM
04-25-2019 07:29 AM - edited 04-25-2019 07:31 AM
@Elliot Kirk Love the new tab especially Inspiration option, striking a good balance with nice images and functionality.
There are still more things I think we could make it better (not in order):
Looking forward for further improvements and kudos to the team working with Edge Chromium project. Cheers!
04-25-2019 08:23 AM
Wow, Thank you all for the kind words and great suggestions. I know that the feature team responsible for the New Tab Page has been reading through these comments.
04-25-2019 09:15 AM
04-25-2019 09:15 AM
@Elliot Kirk Please git rid of the chromium tab rendering. The tabs in chromium look like they belong in XP, not Windows 10. Please skin the whole thing like Edge as I much prefer Edge's visuals.
Also, as you are going through the Chromium codebase, please look for all hooks that call Google's services and API and please only allow such hooks to operate on an opt-in basis with no opt-in = true defaults. A nice descriptive settings page spelling them all out so we can make informed decisions would be very nice and go a long way towards building trust with users that Edge is a safer browser than Chrome.
04-26-2019 05:51 AM
04-26-2019 11:33 AM
04-26-2019 11:33 AM
That IS available, at least, in Canary it is. Would travel to Dev fairly soon, one would think. Without redirecting it (to be) an assigned page, it can be as blank as this...
04-26-2019 11:37 AM
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04-27-2019 11:08 AM
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04-27-2019 12:07 PM
Yes, and another workaround is Pin to start (which, is there, now) & then, Pin to taskbar. Oviously, we are anxious to have (the missing) Pin to taskbar so silly extra steps are not needed.
And thanks, but, also, I try not to put things to the desktop
04-27-2019 01:06 PM
04-27-2019 02:47 PM - edited 04-27-2019 02:51 PM
This has nothing to do with add a new "feature" nor anything that undermines speed or responsiveness. The length or complexity of the workaround is a moot point, here.
It is a matter of the layout & composition of More listngs in Edge vs Edge C, at this moment. Edge C does continue to change and or add things... including, things, currently, in Edge which, haven't yet, made to Edge C. It's our job to let the Build Team know what's, still, wrong or missing; it's a "work in progress". The choice to Pin to taskbar IS listed in Edge, BUT, missing (right now) in Edge C. AND, in Edge, one doesn't even, need to go into More tools to see it, use it. There are other parts of More that are, presently, different & lacking items. Any workarounds would only be considered until the missing items are replaced; at which point they become no longer needed. The Snips show the 2 browsers as they stand, now. BTW, there was a lot of excitement when Pin to taskbar was introduced to Edge... it's, still also, wanted in Edge C. In Edge Pin to desktop doesn't, even, exist. What would make the most sense would be switch it for Pin to taskbar; Pin to taskbar is what makes sense. It's quite ok the Edge doesn't have it... no need for it in Edge C, either, but, there IS (good) reason for keeping Pin to Taskbar.
04-27-2019 03:43 PM - edited 04-27-2019 04:27 PM
I'll give you this info, even, if you know any of it, already:
1. OS Region set to your area
2. Set Default location
3. Set Apps to be allowed to know & use #2
4. Set Edge Dev as Default browser (this may not matter)
5. Be signed-in to Edge C browser, Dev or Canary.
Ok, so now, I am showing my Home page, MSN Canada. I shrunk it down in order to show (only) News sections. You can see Calgary, my city, Canada & World. Also, I pointed at Local... if that's hit it gives Calgary news. You see the yellow circles. Same as Edge, with Edge C those Edits give a panel where one picks what sections THEY want. Hit the word Edit > Add section below
I trust this ⬆ helps.
wait a minute... just realised you're asking about this in New tab. Don't you have Europe or your Country where I have Canada?
Having clicked on it
04-28-2019 03:50 AM
As already mentioned by some others: it would be nice to be able to select a region/language for the news feed on the "new tab page". Being from Europe, I'm not interested in all the US news. In the non-chromium Edge there was an easy option to select this region though.
04-28-2019 04:37 AM
Ok, if it is not possible for Europe, I might know why or will hazard a 'guess'. Going by what I have here in Canada, I instinctively reckoned you would have Europe or specific Countries as Sections, you know what I mean. Anyway, back to what I'll suggest. The Edge Dev & Canary are betas. Edge is not. it is not uncommon, if not normal prescident, that whilst building something with betas they will be, at least for a time, English (United States) and US Region. That's not to say that come Offical release, other languages & regions won't be supported. When no longer beta won't be only English & only US.
NB: They use 'US' losely as it sort of means North America. Although, Windows Insider Builds only JUST added a slew of languages to Dictation. Regular Win10, STILL, will only do it with keyboard set to English (US).
Anyway, to re-enforce my point, here. Taking another look :eyes: at my own & more closely at something I noticed earlier... Yes, there is a Canada 'link' (marked) that does go to Canadian content, exclusively. The My Feed (unmarkked) is a wide array of categories, but, including Canadaian features. However, looking lower down at the selections, there is World News & US. I think betas are like this , instead of going with 'universal' support because in doesn't make sense to sink heaps of time & effort into dressing a lab rat up with a slew of outfits. Once it's work is done & it can go out in public, that's different. Please, run with my lame analogy ;) I suggest the lack out 'global' support is temporay and will not be the case by the time Edge C goes live or non-beta. Certainly, I could be wrong; there's a 1st time for everything (J/K ;):beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:)
An aside: There are a bunch of categories when one hits the More ellipsis ... (to the right of Money)
04-28-2019 05:05 AM
@Elliot Kirk Good starting point! Now that we don't have a sidebar for our favorites, I would like to see a more customizable quick links tiles in the new tab with the ability to group them into folders and split into sections the same way we can arrange tiles in the Windows start menu. Thanks.
04-28-2019 09:04 AM
It's fairly clear from the responses to your request so far that the most wanted option is choice! There are those who appreciate colourful backgrounds and the news feed, while others prefer a less busy page, all the way to having it completely blank. Here are my own preferences:
* OK, bookmarklets aren't much use on the NTP, so that was only to illustrate why an 'icons only' setup wouldn't be much use either in this situation. I'm really pleased that they work, though!
I've failed completely to work out what that icon is supposed to represent. It looks most like a rabbit sledging downhill.
04-28-2019 01:20 PM
Thank you very much for your help and guidance!
However I don't have a similar option like you have "Canada" (meaning I don't have Europe/the country where I am).
Regarding the other option you've mention, to change the OS location, it's more complicated :)
I am in Poland and I wanted to have news from Portugal, so it's not so simple...
But it's like you say, it's not even beta version, and this is not so central.
Once again, thanks or your help.