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Sometimes there is a need to use 2 separate accounts for the same website/form.  Examples could include when dev/testing a website or service, or if you have one admin account and one regular account for something.

 

This is something that password managers such as LastPass support, but the browser (Edge C) doesn't (as far as I'm aware).

Sure, Edge (and all other Chromium-based browsers) support having multiple accounts for a single form field. The browser will autofill one (probably the most recently used) but you can easily just click into the field and select the other account from the dropdown.

Screenshot: https://snag.gy/Vt9Yx1.jpg

@kevmy21 

 


Sometimes there is a need to use 2 separate accounts for the same website/form...

This is something that password managers such as LastPass support, but the browser (Edge C) doesn't (as far as I'm aware).


Have another look. Here's (part of!) my list of credentials in Dev for https://login.live.com. I also wanted to show that the same account can have several different usernames - the one with a phone number is the same as two of those with email addresses (primary and secondary alias) and as one of those with just a Skype name. And they all appear in a dropdown from the username entry field when I visit the site.
  
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@Noel Burgess thanks for sharing an example of how it works.

@Elliot Kirk When RoboForm extension is installed, integrated autofill is disabled. Why? It was working fine before. I want to save some passwords in RoboForm and some just in Edge. Why I have to choose?

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@Elliot Kirk 

Do you intend to save (via end to end encryption or not) the OTP keys, currently I am obliged to use Authy for this while you propose one (but whose key backup is impossible).

If you're looking for a TOTP app you can already use the Microsoft Authenticator app

i'm not using it since it's very difficult to backup otp (encrypted or not) if i lost my phone

 

edit : i'm on android

@Deleted I do use it but agree we need to be able to back it up, unless it is backed up by the system and restored with a system reset. I would hate to rely on this for keeping all my user names and passwords and then have the system fail and lose them all.


@Deleted wrote:

i'm not using it since it's very difficult to backup otp (encrypted or not) if i lost my phone

 

edit : i'm on android


@Deleted I do use it but agree we need to be able to back it up, unless it is backed up by the system and restored with a system reset. I would hate to rely on this for keeping all my user names and passwords and then have the system fail and lose them all.

Yes, i would like to backup it in onedrive just like the microsoft launcher let us do (but do it automatically in this case)
I would like to suggest to enable better mass deletion of password entries. Currently there are three dots (click) - then select delete (click). At least one too many. And it would easily avoid the unnecessary confusion of where to find basic editing functions. Ok admit, I hate that pest of picture guesing everywhere. How to better build this can be seen for those passwords grouped under "never saved". Clear signal what the button is supposed to do. Does it in simple, straight forward action.
> I'm not a fan of saving sensitive information automatically. I think it requires the clarification that passwords are not saved automatically. Each one requires the user to confirm each password to be saved. And it think nobody should take that control away - neither by never saving nor by always saving pwds. In my experience a concious decision is required for every site. Some I trust, others I don't. And that is what I end up with: the list shows where I never saved a pwd. Looking thru my list, the list is about right. Only desire I would have is to enable better mass deletion. Just posted that response a min ago.

 


@ericlaw wrote:
That said, it remains "By-Design" that every profile running in the Edge browser, even within a single Windows User Account, has partitioned credentials that are not shared with any other profile.


 

OK. I maintain that it's bad design!

 


I'm not clear on what benefit you'd obtain by having all profiles' credentials to be placed into the Windows User account's OS Credential Manager as well; 

@ericlaw 

 

I wonder if we're talking at cross-purposes here. I have for many years used the Credential Manager as the central repository for all my usernames and passwords. I just did a little test: I viewed the password in CM for a site where I changed it a couple of days ago on a different machine. I then visited the site using Edge Classic and used the autofill to attempt to log in. Of course it failed, so I tried again, this time with the new password. Success. Edge then asked whether I'd like to save the changed password, and I said Yes. After closing and re-opening CM, I could see that the password there had been updated, with the standard legacy remark that it had been saved by Internet Explorer. Had I used Dev instead, this CM entry would not have been updated.  

 

If I've understood correctly,

  • IE stores passwords in CM - does it also retrieve them from there?
  • Edge stores passwords in its own vault and also in CM. Autofill entries are retrieved from the Edge vault.
  • Dev and Canary store passwords only in the browser profile and retrieves them from there.

All I want is for the new browser also to save passwords in the CM. I wouldn't expect it to retrieve them from there, but from its own vault. Otherwise, I could end up having different stored passwords for the same site depending on which browser profile I happened to be using on which machine when I last changed it. 

 

The passwords I currently see when using Dev on this machine were imported from Edge when I first set it up. 

 

This is a potential nightmare. One small addition to the current set-up might help: write the date-last-saved to the Details card for each stored credential. At least then it would be possible to track down the latest one.

>IE stores passwords in CM - does it also retrieve them from there? Edge stores passwords in its own vault and also in CM.

IE and (legacy) Edge store and retrieve credentials *exclusively* from the Windows Credential Manager.

New Edge does not use the Windows Credential manager for either storage OR retrieval.

@ericlaw 

 

I recently had occasion to curse this arrangement. Windows Update was really insistent about upgrading my 32GB kitchen tablet to Win10 1903. I had very little of the 32GB left, so I'm afraid Canary had to go along with a lot of other stuff. The uninstaller asked if I wanted to 'retain browser data,' so I did, only ditching cached files and images. I managed to clear 9.5GB and the upgrade went ahead with no problems. 

 

I then re-installed Canary on the machine, and guess what? The first time I tried to log in here, there were no autofill data! All the hundreds of credential pairs had gone, and the ones I had added in the months since I started using Canary weren't in Windows Credential Manager either, of course. 

 

This wasn't a total disaster, partly because I had a paper record of cryptic password hints. Better still, not really trusting Canary's promise to retain my data across the un- and re-installation, I had uploaded Canary's User Data folder to OneDrive. Sniffing around there, I located the Login Data ... files. With a little prayer, I replaced the empty ones in the new installation with the backed-up ones and all my credentials came back. 

 

I wonder what an 'ordinary' user would have done. It would have been so much less worrying had the passwords been salted away in CM.

 

@ericlaw 

Sorry, our posts crossed. 

 


IE and (legacy) Edge store and retrieve credentials *exclusively* from the Windows Credential Manager.

So why can't New Edge do the same? I just cannot see why Edge makes it necessary to have to maintain multiple disconnected sets of credentials, many of which might be for the same sites. 

Sadly, this is the kind of integration that's sacrificed to being cross platform and syncing (or maybe just because that's not what Chrome does - because I'm sure the cred manager already syncs to other PCs for Edge - and does new Edge use the keychain on mac OS?)
i'm new here so sorry if my question is in the wrong place, considering the BETA stage is it safe to log in to websites normally? I mean social networks, traditional non-banking sites

@viniciusbezerra - Yes, Edge is ready for general use. Many of us have been using it as our default browser for many months. You might find occasional bugs and other problems that are corrected as new updates are released, but it's unlikely that you'll hit any serious problems.

@viniciusbezerra 

Hi Vini & welcome,

This is a fine, if not perfect place for your question & the answer is YES.  Naturally & certainly, being betas, these are not finished products, but, they are safe to use.  I should add, IF you are running the Beta Channel, although it receives updates as infrequently as every 6 wks, it is the most 'solid' of the 3; stays stagnant longer, but, will have the fewest 'issues'.

Cheers,
Drew
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@Elliot Kirk 

Is it me or does the autofill text use a static font size? I'm getting the behavior that the text is a bit smaller than what my CSS (Bootstrap) specifies for the login form. When I click on the text field the font will immediately adjust to the correct size. It's just on that initial render and autofill that the size isn't quite correct.

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