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Jauhar
May 28, 2021Iron Contributor
Cumulative update KB5003214 fails to install
Hello Good afternoon Everybody ! Well unexpectedly ONCE AGAIN Windows cumulative update windows 10 version 21H1 build 19043.1023 failing to install after multiple attempts. This means this is the 4th...
- Jun 07, 2021
Jauhar I have tried to upgrade Windows 10 using the media creation tool and it fix the same problem that you have mentioned. I have the same problem before installing KB5001330 and a lot of Cumulative Updates. Just select Upgrade This PC and make sure to select Keep Files and Apps to make sure that you still have the apps/files that you have before upgrading. For me, it takes about 1 hour from the Media Creation Tool up to a couple of restarts. But it depends on your internet speed. And now I can install all updates. Also tried SFC and DISM Scans but did not fix my problem. Upgrading your PC will replace your Windows Files, but not affects Files, Apps, and Drivers. After that, there will be some updates in the Windows Updates after the upgrade.
Optional:
Delete the ESD Folder in the C:/ directory
Settings/System/Storage/Temporary Files then scan our Temporary Files and delete the Previous Installation of Windows. (Deletes the Windows.old folder)
*Doing Optional things will make your drive space bigger as it deletes the files used in the upgrade, but its files will be needed if you have problems, to go back to the previous install/state.
Also, I tried it with my another PC, with an AMD A8 CPU that takes about 1 and a half hour for the upgrade process and it also fix the problem. Hope that works.
Wingy10
Oct 02, 2021Brass Contributor
Did the following using CMD with admin rights:
net stop bits
net stop wuauserv
net stop appidsvc
net stop cryptsvc
rename C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution SoftwareDistribution.old
rename C:\Windows\System32\catroot2 catroot2.old
net start bits
net start wuauserv
net start appidsvc
net start cryptsvc
Exit CMD
Restart PC and did update of KB5005565 again but same end result - error code 0x80073712
net stop bits
net stop wuauserv
net stop appidsvc
net stop cryptsvc
rename C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution SoftwareDistribution.old
rename C:\Windows\System32\catroot2 catroot2.old
net start bits
net start wuauserv
net start appidsvc
net start cryptsvc
Exit CMD
Restart PC and did update of KB5005565 again but same end result - error code 0x80073712
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Oct 02, 2021https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB5005565
It can manually download the file and install bypassing the Server Update - it will be possible to install,
It can manually download the file and install bypassing the Server Update - it will be possible to install,
- Wingy10Nov 03, 2021Brass Contributor
Deleted Just an update. I managed to transfer all the boot system files from the D:\ drive to the c:\drive using cmd with admin rights with the following syntax
bcdboot c:\windows /s c:
There were two boot system files - bootmgr and bootnxt - left in root of the 😧 drive. These 2 files are copies of the ones transferred to the root of the C: drive by bcdboot. Because of this the 😧 drive still remained active. What I did next was to make the C:\drive active and the D:\drive inactive. By making the D:\drive inactive bootmgr and bootnxt no longer showed up in the root. Restarted the PC and Windows booted up with no issues.
- DeletedOct 31, 2021This is great information!
Congratulations. - Wingy10Oct 31, 2021Brass Contributor
Deleted No issues with Windows booting up - its pretty quick. When I did a clean install of Windows I didn't disconnect my 😧 drive data HDD so some system files must have crept into this drive. The 3 system files I mentioned previously are in the root of the 😧 drive. The system files in the root of the C: drive are AMTAG.Bin, Dumpstack.log.tmp, hiberfil.sys, pagefile.sys and swapfile.sys.
The recovery system image was created OK. The image backup now includes the contents of the 😧 drive hence, it took longer to create and required more disk space.
You can see from my disk management console screenshot that no separate system reserve partition is shown on either the C: or the 😧 yet Windows boots up with no issue. Using Minitool it told me both are MBR partitions.
- DeletedOct 31, 2021But the recovery disk was created correctly - without these files?
- Wingy10Oct 31, 2021Brass Contributor
Deleted Noticed there are the three files in the 😧 drive that are treating this 😧 drive as a system volume when creating a system image backup:
Bootmgr
bootnxt
bootsect.bak
Is there any safe way to move or copy these 3 files to C: drive.
- DeletedOct 31, 2021I would risk disconnecting drive D - but it is certainly difficult to predict whether the system will boot, but reinsisting drive D again - should restore the system.
But I have never had such a problem .
, so it is not checked and you will do it at your own risk. - Wingy10Oct 31, 2021Brass Contributor
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I mentioned previously I managed to do a clean install of Windows 10 Version 21H1 on a brand new clean 1TB drive. I did make a mistake of not disconnecting my 😧 drive when I did the installation. Because of this, when I did a system image backup my 😧 drive was also backed up and there was no option not to select the 😧 drive. It transpired my 😧 drive is now treated as a system volume because when I did the clean install of Windows some boot files found their way into the 😧 drive hence, my image back up took longer and used more drive space. I did a printscreen (see below) of my disk management console.
The C: drive is Boot, Page File, Crash Dump, Primary Partition and the 😧 drive is System, Active Primary Partition. Both drives have MBR partitioning according to Minitool. You can also see the C:\ drive doesn’t show a System Reserve Partition, neither the 😧 drive shows any other partition.
So, can I disconnect my 😧 drive just to do a system image backup on the C:\ drive only and is there a way to disable the 😧 drive as a system volume without disconnecting it. Also, will Windows boots up without the 😧 drive connected ? The C: is already configured as the 1st boot priority after the DVD drive in the bios.
- Wingy10Oct 23, 2021Brass ContributorOut of curiosity I used diskpart to check for any MBR or GPT partitions that I can't see. The following are the results:
DISKPART> list disk
Disk ### Status Size Free Dyn Gpt
-------- ------------- ------- ------- --- ---
Disk 0 Online 931 GB 0 B
Disk 1 Online 931 GB 0 B
Volume ### Ltr Label Fs Type Size Status Info
---------- --- ----------- ----- ---------- ------- --------- --------
Volume 0 E DVD-ROM 0 B No Media
Volume 1 C NTFS Partition 931 GB Healthy Boot
Volume 2 D New Volume NTFS Partition 931 GB Healthy System
DISKPART> list partition
Partition ### Type Size Offset
------------- ---------------- ------- -------
Partition 1 Primary 931 GB 1024 KB
DISKPART> list volume
Volume ### Ltr Label Fs Type Size Status Info
---------- --- ----------- ----- ---------- ------- --------- --------
Volume 0 E DVD-ROM 0 B No Media
Volume 1 C NTFS Partition 931 GB Healthy Boot
Volume 2 D New Volume NTFS Partition 931 GB Healthy System
It is telling me that the entire C: drive is boot. - DeletedOct 23, 2021I don't know if it's correct!
- Wingy10Oct 23, 2021Brass ContributorI still have a couple of questions. I didn't install Windows 21H1 on a drive that previously had version 20H2 or older, Version 21H1 was installed on a brand new clean 1TB HDD. As I mentioned previously, I opened Disk Management Console and noticed :
1. I can't see any EFI or System Reserve Partition on my C: drive
2. In Properties, I there isn't a volume tab on either C: or 😧 drives
3. Because of (2) above I can't check whether especially the C: drive whether it has a MBR or GPT drive
I wonder whether this is a new feature in Windows 21H1 when installed on a clean HDD. Anyone had installed Windows 21H! or 11 on a clean HDD and noticed the same ? - DeletedOct 22, 2021
Don't do it now!
First, make a copy of the system image, and then install Office
- Wingy10Oct 22, 2021Brass ContributorGoing to install Office 365 after which I will do a system image backup.
- DeletedOct 22, 2021Congratulations!
This means that you confirm that a clean installation has fixed everything.
Please create a system recovery disk on USB can always come in handy!
Best regards - Wingy10Oct 22, 2021Brass Contributor
Deleted This morning I decided to take plunge and did a clean install Windows 10 Pro Version 21H1 on a brand new 1TB hard drive. Everything went well including installing cumulative update KB5006670. There are things that I noticed regarding my C: drive and a second 😧 drive.
I went into the Disk Management Console and noticed :
1. The C: drive don't have or show a System Reserve Partition
2. Went into the drive's Properties and there isn't a Volume tab where I can check whether the drive has a MBR or GPT partition. Same for the 😧 drive.
Anyone using version 21H1 with the same info ? My motherboard has a UEFI bios.
- DeletedOct 04, 2021Important: Resetting your PC (or using Fresh Start) will remove most of your apps, including Microsoft Office, third-party anti-virus software, and desktop apps that came pre-installed on your device. You will not be able to recover removed apps, and will need to manually reinstall these apps. You may also lose your digital licenses and digital content associated with apps, which may impact your ability to use these apps or app-related content you paid for.
- DeletedOct 04, 2021Familiarize yourself with these steps , ISO for windows11 - it will be only after the release . But these steps show that you can leave your personal files and apps.
I would do that. just go to System Recovery
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/give-your-pc-a-fresh-start-0ef73740-b927-549b-b7c9-e6f2b48d275e - Wingy10Oct 04, 2021Brass ContributorMy current 20H2 OS is already activated with my MS Account. Under Activation it says Windows is activated with a digital licence linked to my MS Account. Only issue I have is, now and then there is pop-up saying there is an issue with the account which the sign-in pop-up black and blank. Should I use the 21H1 or the Win 11 iso to reinstall ?
- DeletedOct 04, 2021Yes, but remember to synchronize your Microsoft account with system activation - before proceeding with a clean installation.
- Wingy10Oct 04, 2021Brass ContributorA clean install will only be the solution. Probably, a clean install on the same HDD as the current Windows OS without having to re-activate and the current OS becoming Windows.old. I will have to re-install my MS Office applications etc.
- DeletedOct 03, 2021This is a really difficult case - only a clean installation of the system remains, but it will delete your personal files, , I really understand your frustration.
- Wingy10Oct 03, 2021Brass ContributorDownloaded the catalog update file and parked it in the D:\Updates folder. Then tried using DISM to install the downloaded cab file:
dism /online /add-package /packagepath:D:\Updates\windows10.0-kb5005565-x64_c5b235b81ae5acd9d11ff35edee287b663e5861a.cab
Installation only completed at 3.5% with a error message that the Component Store is corrupted. - DeletedOct 03, 2021
- Wingy10Oct 03, 2021Brass ContributorI have extracted the files to a special folder. The files are:
SSU-19041.1220-x64.cab
toc.xml
update.cat
update.mum
Windows10.0-KB5005565-x64.cab
What should I do next to update ? - DeletedOct 02, 2021
I have such a request before installation , enable optional diagnostic data in the privacy settings, it will allow you to send automatic error logs to the Microsoft team, but it can help you install updates because the installer uses them during system configuration .
- Wingy10Oct 02, 2021Brass ContributorThanks. I have downloaded it and will try installing it another day. I know it may or may not install.