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Jennifer Seitsinger
Aug 13, 2017Iron Contributor
External Sharing with Stream or Video
I teach kindergarten students and need the ability to give them easy access to videos I've prepared. I usually do this by creating a QR code for them to scan, but for this to work I need the ability...
- Oct 09, 2017
We track all the ideas from all of you here on the MS Tech Community in the "Ideas" section.
Typically external videos feature request come in 2 flavors.
1. Pure public / anonymous video - where anyone with a link / embed code can watch the video without logging in.
Idea in the forums for Public / anonymous video: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Microsoft-Stream-Ideas/Public-videos/idc-p/93045#M652
2. Guest users - Where you type in the email of a person you want to share with and they have to login in some way with Org ID or MSA to see a video.
Idea in the forums for guest users: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Microsoft-Stream-Ideas/External-Guests/idc-p/95557#M663
Chad West
Jul 26, 2019Brass Contributor
mbowgren Since we are halfway through Q3 I'm expecting MS to push it to 2025 because basic functionality seems really hard.
mbowgren
Dec 04, 2019Brass Contributor
Chad West I'm actually a little surprised they're doing this at all. I can't imagine they want Stream to be anything like YouTube - hosting videos that hundreds of thousands or millions of people might play. Stream seems like it is for collaboration work primarily for recorded meetings and trainings internally. There are so many other services for video hosting externally. Is it possible that the primary reason people want external sharing so badly is because they believe it would be free without ads? Or do people like Stream's face and text search features so much that's why they want to use it for public videos instead of another service. I don't get the appeal of embedding these videos in public sites since any public site would be hosted elsewhere and be perfectly capable of hosting a video file on its own.
- RobOnyxPublishingJan 21, 2021Copper ContributorHI Steve
Thank you for your message, and yes I am now aware that the solution is being worked on. But to say my team did not do the due diligence on this matter... Teams allows guest access as with most of Microsofts products. Stream is actually built into Teams, not just an App, but built in to the interface. Even as a guest logged into Teams the Stream option is available in the message field. Microsoft even announced that they are switching on guest access to Teams by default. Anyone looking in from the outside would assume that all core functions of the Teams interface coexist. Such as Guest access being pushed very hard, and stream being actually part of the interface.
I look forward to the update of Stream, and more importantly look forward to being able to bring in a guest to a project and not have to externally send all videos from the stream channel, and videos posted in the channel to the guest seperately, completely defeating the object of the Teams objective. - SeiSteveJan 21, 2021Brass Contributor
Hi, with respect I am sure you are now aware that this specific problem will change which is great news.
I am surprised that your team did not do the due diligence and understand that some features have been in waiting for some time. it might have removed any surprise.
To try and help, we all get frustrated but the basic model is that MS created an environment on which things can be built quickly with the more complex items taking longer and needing to be implemented later when it is ready. Stream is really an external service so getting it to do external in a way that your audit teams would be happy with in terms of security is hard.
It is very inconvenient but I will wait for a solution that would not cause a security concern rather than MS rush it and embarrass me with my name against an insecure product.
- Jeffrey AllenJan 20, 2021Silver Contributor
Rob0303030, Microsoft is moving to a new Stream over the coming months which will have videos stored in OneDrive and SharePoint and external sharing will be a part of the process. The new Microsoft Stream - Microsoft Stream | Microsoft Docs
- Rob0303030Jan 20, 2021Copper Contributor
Yet another core feature not implemented. And one that's been on going for years... We recently moved our company over to the Microsoft eco system and every day I coming across core (obvious) feature missing, and every day I regret the move more. Yes it's all under one roof, but most of it is useless with missing features that seem obvious to everyone but the developers. If Teams id there to help reduce context switching don't force us external sources to satisfy these core features. Such disappointment.
- DonMacFarJun 02, 2020Copper Contributor
mbowgren As a business we would like to take our Teams recordings and share them with clients after a client meeting. Teams recordings nicely go to Stream when they are done. Getting that recording into the clients' hands is a nightmare. We want to have a protected way of sharing the Streams recording with them that does not involve Youtube or a large number of <20mb files via Outlook. This could be a great win for MS. Most companies have O365 licenses but sharing or collaborating across organizations is an utter nightmare without chain linking 3rd party solutions.
- runciblehatMay 19, 2020Copper ContributorI agree Stream is for collaboration but to give you a real example - we are working with another company and doing great collaboration in a shared Team in their tenant (we are guests). However, any recordings of meetings we have cannot be shared in that tenant. I agree that just opening up for public viewing would not fit the product, but I also cannot select guest users in my AD, so cannot share videos with federated guests.
- jacobopereiraApr 02, 2020Copper Contributor
It's not that hard guys, come on, you can do it!!
It's not a security issue, you already allow to download the *.mp4 file. Just automate the move from Streams to OneDrive. Create a button "Move to OneDrive", we will do the rest.
You don't want to be doing that move click by click, waiting for the download, waiting for the upload, hoping anything crashes everytime with a 1Gb file of a two hours training.
I trust you, give us good news soon.
- Lee EngelhardtApr 01, 2020Copper Contributor
Q4 2020 Now
There must be some interesting aspects to how they have this all coded if its this hard to make a video public. Maybe its all just "that" secure eh? Probably not, but its nice to dream.
- N8KnottinghamFeb 03, 2020Copper Contributor
Luca Vitali This is the feature and use case that we need as well. We do a lot of Demo calls with potential clients and I want to record the call to prove the power of Teams, then edit the video, upload a new one and share with specific private people. Hoping the workflow can be updated to a Q2 position as it seems like a permissions cloning similar to Onedrive.
- docreedJan 06, 2020Copper Contributor
Jeff_Lamb Also, we are hearing from our German colleagues that the translation is mostly wrong and they are having to go back in and correct it. Asked if they could share externally to a user so that they could have it edited for correct translation.
Would be an ideal situation to try.
- Jeffrey AllenDec 18, 2019Silver Contributor
David McKnight, I don't know the differences in the ToS and while I agree both are 3rd party, I have admin privileges in O365 and don't on YouTube and so I have a little more control with Microsoft. YouTube is public where in Microsoft if Stream videos can be allowed externally we can control it a little better.
- David McKnightDec 18, 2019Brass Contributor
Jeffrey Allen, it would be interesting to know if the terms of service are substantially different between YouTube and Stream. While Stream appears to host company IP in one's Office 365 tenant, it is still in a third-party environment, and only as protected as much as the ToS provide.
In that Microsoft hosts Microsoft videos in YouTube, they don't appear to be overly concerned. That does not make YOUR concern invalid. We depend on O365 to manage confidential business processes, yet the value for the price makes me somewhat concerned that we also get what we pay for.
Good comments, thanks!
- Jeffrey AllenDec 12, 2019Silver Contributor
David McKnight, while YouTube is a solution, it now takes company property, if you will, out of the tenant and puts it into a third party non-controlled site. I agree that external sharing should be allowed especially if you record a Teams meeting that has guest members so that they can refer back to or if by chance they miss they can watch it.
- David McKnightDec 12, 2019Brass ContributorYouTube is A solution; it's just not the ideal solution. Today if you need an anonymous link, you CAN get that in YouTube -- and anyone with that link has access to your video. It does not need to be shared with the world. The problem with this is simply that you have to move the video file and create the appropriate privileges in YouTube along with the anonymous link, which is a set of steps you shouldn't need to take with video that already resides in Stream.
- David McKnightDec 12, 2019Brass Contributor
mbowgren you said: "Stream seems like it is for collaboration work primarily for recorded meetings and trainings internally."
Microsoft has designed this for internal tenant use -- the problem with that is that almost 100% of our Microsoft Teams meetings that we need to record are for a client (which of course is NOT internal to the tenant). We (and apparently a LOT of Stream users are like us) need to be able to have an easy way to record a meeting or online training, and make it available on a limited basis for those clients we go through this with.
I have started to download the MP4, and save the recording in OneDrive for Business, which I CAN share with my clients -- but what a hoop to have to jump through when I could just share the Stream video directly.
For THIS type of use, Microsoft has committed to making Stream a sharable application. Eventually. It's just that "Eventually" keeps getting pushed back.
- Luca VitaliDec 08, 2019MVPTotally agree with Jeff Lamb
For example I need to share a recorded video of an internal course to one of our customer. YouTube is not the solution, Stream with external anonymous access is the right tool. - Amanda FickesDec 04, 2019Copper Contributor
mbowgren That is all we are looking for, too. We just need to be able to embed or link in university courses, not to share specifically with a specific, individual external account.
- Jeff_LambDec 04, 2019Brass Contributor
mbowgren, you are missing the point. As part of the O365 suite, Stream should be able to share externally with specific people - just like all the other O365 services. My company would like to share videos with our non-employee distributor partners.
A generic guest link would give the experience of YouTube, but those are generally frowned-upon in the enterprise, and are typically disabled.
- Jeffrey AllenDec 04, 2019Silver Contributor
mbowgren, we'd like to share these videos to specific audiences who aren't a part of our tenant maybe as part of a form, or just send them a link and it keeps the videos within our organization where if we posted to YouTube then it is outside of our control.
- Janet ThorsonDec 04, 2019Brass Contributor
mbowgren Speaking from an academic institution, we want our students to be able to share their videos externally with specific other audiences, in a secured space, for authentic publishing and feedback.