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Jaroslav Karlik's avatar
Jaroslav Karlik
Brass Contributor
Sep 03, 2019

Users can disable search

Hi Guys,

I wanted to ask how you deal in your organizations with the fact that end-user (also SCA for his/her OneDrive site) can go and with a bit of extra effort they can disable search (from old site settings). Of course impact of that is mainly on eDiscovery which from that moment is unable to discover documents/files or preserve them.

 

They can do other ugly stuff too, like create subsites in OneDrive, or create additional libraries or even enable check out which makes no sense in OneDrive and causing of number of very weird and hard to solve problems. 

 

I just notice that MS introduced new twp page design for "OneDrive Settings" but this compliance gap is still not addressed. 

  • Hi Jaroslav Karlik TonyRedmond et al,


    We've reviewed further with those on our end already engaged on the issue - a continuing effort to adjust legacy settings to the cloud-first approach, evolving from on-premises roots. We've a planned fix soon to roll out that makes moot what you're discovering. Once fully in place, people will not be able to disable eDiscovery for their own OneDrive - even if they had disabled Search. It will be a sole action for admins. Appreciate the eyeballs and call to attention.

    Thanks, Mark, on behalf of the OneDrive team
  • Hi Jaroslav Karlik TonyRedmond et al,


    We've reviewed further with those on our end already engaged on the issue - a continuing effort to adjust legacy settings to the cloud-first approach, evolving from on-premises roots. We've a planned fix soon to roll out that makes moot what you're discovering. Once fully in place, people will not be able to disable eDiscovery for their own OneDrive - even if they had disabled Search. It will be a sole action for admins. Appreciate the eyeballs and call to attention.

    Thanks, Mark, on behalf of the OneDrive team
  • Tihomir Buncic's avatar
    Tihomir Buncic
    Copper Contributor

    Jaroslav Karlik 

    Are you talking about On-Prem OD?

    I see how disabling eDiscovery could be a problem if you want to make sure that your user are compliant with the governance. I didn't know that disabling search would effect eDiscovery. 
    Microsoft is hiding many of the pages that could allow users to make some damage, but again, it's their site. If they want to play, if they want to learn, it's better to do it on their site rather then on a SharePoint site.  The data is backed up. We use Online version with thousands of users and I haven't seen a user that needed help with OD because they hacked OneDrive settings. 

     

    • Jaroslav Karlik's avatar
      Jaroslav Karlik
      Brass Contributor

      Tihomir Buncic 

      Hi, I mean standard Onedrive for Business aka personal site on SPO. Its not just eDiscovery.... DLP relies on content searches too.

       

      I take care of aprox 160k users globaly on ODB and I can say that you are lucky that your users can behave, mine not. We do have people messing around with those critical settings. 

       

      check out new page for settings which have still link to old classic mode site settings (on bottom of page) which I find out super dangerous really. If you think about GDPR Dashboard which is part of Security Center will be useless to when you cant ensure that all sites are possible to content search thru them. 

  • Well yes, the user being a SCA can do as they please with any setting on their personal ODFB, assuming they know what they're doing. I haven't actually tested how search settings affect eDiscovery, but will verify this now and report back.

    • VasilMichev's avatar
      VasilMichev
      MVP

      So I disabled search for one user, but I can still run eDiscovery against his ODFB just fine. I'll give it some time to re-index, and will try again.

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