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Inking on Web Pages - Discussion
We have received a lot of feedback about supporting inking annotations for web pages like what we have in the current version of Microsoft Edge. Many users have told us that they use this functionality as a daily driver and would like to see it in the new version of Microsoft Edge as well. We would like to understand the scenarios in which you would use this functionality. Details about what you use it for, what are the expectations about availability of different tools, saving and sharing options etc. would be extremely useful in making sure we provide the best user experience to you. Your input will help us making sure that the feature works best for you.
292 Replies
- dopylopBrass Contributor
Well first off, the inking, annotating, reader functionality of original Edge needs to be included up front. In other words, no loss of functionality. Until then, to discontinue original Edge would be a very poor decision for users of pen enabled computers. This is the prize feature of Edge and to replace it with something less than will lead to Microsoft producing (wait for it) ... ... ... Chrome.
Anything less than those features will lead to a Chrome browser which will only mean Microsoft is producing a wholly derivative, me-too, copy of what is there already.
Secondly, this product could be expanded in the future to connect to or leverage the features of such programmes as Plumbago, MS Whiteboard, etc.
Compatibility to web pages is a nice add-on but if it comes at the price of giving up everything unique to original Edge it is simply not worth it. Microsoft should not be an 'also ran'.- Drew1903Silver Contributor
dopylop
It is SO wonderful to see the steady consistency of common similar sentiments being expressed by a steady stream of people. I, for one (of the ever-increasing countless others), pray, hope, more than words can express, that the Edge Team is hearing the (singular) voice of the multitudes AND that they act accordingly AND within the 2 months there is remaining to GA! Obviously, it is further being stated that MS will regret it otherwise. Will make a huge difference in End Users reactions to the finished product. They define the product has having these things! Get it, yet? It is draws people to it (no pun intended) & makes it special to them! That allure and loyalty IS NOT something to risk losing!
Cheers,
Drew- Spoiler
Drew1903 wrote:
It is SO wonderful to see the steady consistency of common similar sentiments being expressed by a steady stream of people. I, for one (of the ever-increasing countless others), pray, hope, more than words can express, that the Edge Team is hearing the (singular) voice of the multitudes AND that they act accordingly AND within the 2 months there is remaining to GA!Obviously, it is further being stated that MS will regret it otherwise. Will make a huge difference in End Users reactions to the finished product. They define the product has having these things! Get it, yet? It is draws people to it (no pun intended) & makes it special to them! That allure and loyalty IS NOT something to risk losing!
Version 79, marked for stable release, is most likely feature locked, they are only working on bug fixes for it.
- LuKePicciBrass Contributor
Elliot Kirk This is definitely a must, I'm full touch and pen oriented since years ago so I really want this. However I never really liked the previous Edge implementation. I make heavy use of OneNote and what I would simply like is to get some webpages opened inside OneNote Tabs (much like IE tabs), where everything about inking is done the way of OneNote. That inked or annotated page should be available as well in OneNote app and whenever I reopen that same webpage in Edge I should get the ability to see my inked and annotated version and continue working on it. Of course an alert would ask me if to stay on that page snapshot or download an updated version of the page.
OneNote Web clipper is out of scope here, it is for different purposes.
Some of my use cases:
- inking in community threads to mark/highlight issues as solved/noted
- inking in software documentation pages I maintain to highlight what needs to be improved/fixed/updated
- inking in websites I develop to better describe UI related requirements, user stories or defects (it would be awesome to attach the sketch to my work items)
- inking on wikipedia pages, newspapers, scientific articles I study
- JHRussell1972Brass Contributor
I marked up a page and sent it to OneNote, and it was basically an image. If the thing is just grabbing a screenshot for you to mark up and then saving it, by all means OneNote should handle it and it can't be that hard to recreate. LuKePicci
JHRussell1972 wrote:I marked up a page and sent it to OneNote, and it was basically an image. If the thing is just grabbing a screenshot for you to mark up and then saving it, by all means OneNote should handle it and it can't be that hard to recreate.
Did someone say it's hard or they are not going to do it?
- WatneyIron Contributor
I'm thrilled to learn that inking is moving up on the road map. My #1 use for the Surface Pro X is inking PDFs. I'm on several nonprofit boards, and I add notes, comments, and highlights when reviewing board packets. It's super useful to stay in Edge, save to OneDrive, and head for meetings thoroughly prepared. Thanks so much Team!!
- DRelliot90Brass Contributor
For me, Inking is hugely useful. I'm a student so I spend a lot of time researching journal articles, websites and ebooks. A lot of my lecture and university-provided material is online too. The ability to ink all over these webpages, highlighting key points, scribbling notes and printing/sending to OneNote has been really useful for cutting down how much paper I have to use and for interacting with what I read and summarising it. I do this both during lectures and when studying at home.
Aside from just academic stuff, I've been using it a fair bit when I've planned holidays/travelling
With regards to tools, I think the ability to use a stylus such as a Surface Pen to draw in a variety of colours and thicknesses, and the ability to highlight, are the two big ones I'd personally like from this feature. Saving-wise, the ablility to print, to paper and/or PDF for sharing would be great, and the ability for any web annotations to be sent to OneDrive like in the old Edge.
Thanks!
- Elliot KirkSilver Contributor
Thank you DRelliot90, for your feedback. As you think back on your usage are there any other changes that you would make to the feature? Have you ever wanted to get your notes on your mobile device? Have you wanted to type up notes rather than just writing with a stylus or finger? Thanks - Elliot
- DRelliot90Brass Contributor
Hi Elliot, sorry for the long delay in getting back to you with this!
In terms of new additions, yes - typing as well as drawing onto documents and webpages would also be useful, and maybe would allow me to copy key bits of text from elsewhere and overlay it on what I'm annotating so that I can see the bigger picture of what I'm working on.
Another thing I've thought about before, which is particularly relevant as I mark up the journal articles I read whilst studying, is that it would great to be able to have layers of inking, where different layers of annotation can be turned on or off. This would be really quite useful when annotating media where there isn't much space around the content for the ink, and would also allow for better division/categorisation of my notes.
Being able to access my notes on my mobile, either through the Edge browser there or via OneNote, would also be really quite useful; I normally save my annotations to OneNote so I can access them on any device.
- viniciusbezerraIron ContributorAll the old features are welcome in the new browser, without them Edge is just one of the crowd.
viniciusbezerra wrote:
All the old features are welcome in the new browser, without them Edge is just one of the crowd.So true!
- Drew1903Silver Contributor
viniciusbezerra
Exactly, Vini!... must have or keep what makes it special & especially likable because of its (unique) star pieces, we'll call them; those same features which, people have been mentioning since April.
Cheers,
Drew
- WolfIcefangIron Contributor
There's a lot of talk here about Microsoft in general, about Microsoft Edge Insider being worse than its classic counterpart, and about the need to be feature-identical at launch. (and... about Android?)
I want to preface my response to your question by saying that I never used Inking on a daily basis; in fact, I've never used the feature at all beyond "seeing how it works". I'm not going to argue against it being added into the New Edge. It's one of the top pieces of feedback, and I can definitely see how it would be useful for people in lines of work other than mine. I can, however, talk about something remarkably similar to Add notes: Snip and Sketch. I use that tool multiple times a day, often to highlight graphical inconsistencies with Edge Canary that can't be captured with Send feedback's built in screenshot tools.
There are a lot of clever features in Add notes that I'd love to see in Snip and Sketch, and vice versa. I love that text notes are shown as bubbles with just a number, with the text displayed off to the side during an export. That would be a perfect addition to Snip and Sketch. It also turns out that I'm a huge fan of the clip functionality. Scrolling through the webpage while dragging a screenshot box? That's fantastic! There are definitely some things in Snip and Sketch which would greatly benefit the next Add Notes in Edge. Undo and Redo are always nice to have. A crop tool would be good for websites that don't work with Reading view. Zoom would be a great addition. Sure, multitouch zoom works in a pinch, but there's no "reset to actual size" button and if you use the keyboard to zoom in and out, good luck finding 100% again. There are of course the more pedestrian functions: Draw, Highlight, and Erase. Add notes can't live without them, even though I'm not able to aptly use them myself.
And let's talk about my "inability to use them" for a minute, shall we? Add Notes and Snip and Sketch are designed HEAVILY around pen based input. I don't own a Surface. I don't own a convertible laptop. Sure, I have a touch screen, but it isn't pen compatible. My primary form of input is a keyboard and mouse; I often use my laptop in a "docked" state. Add notes is nowhere near as bad as Snip and Sketch because it has the incredibly good text box tool that I never knew I needed, but the basic drawing is really, really bad. There are no shapes and no ways to draw a straight line. One would think that maybe there would be a dedicated tool, but no. Perhaps holding ctrl, shift, alt, or one of the other 102 keys on my keyboard would enable straight line mode? No! If I try to make an arrow or a box to indicate something's importance, it's going to look like a 5 year old with a coloring book. What about the highlighter? Well, it doesn't snap to text, so you're either going to use it carefully (slowly), or deal with another inaccurate squiggle. The eraser tool is fine, right? Sure, it's fine, but it's not great. You can't right click to erase. You can flip a surface pen over to use the eraser instantly (I'm only assuming because, again, I can't do that myself.), but you can't right click to get the same effect at the same speed. My mouse is special, it has back and and forwards buttons. Normally, these buttons would undo and redo actions. In Add notes, and also in Snip and Sketch, these awesome buttons do whatever the primary click button does. Why? Why do this? Right click doesn't do anything, which means you people had to decide to program this in! So yeah. Add notes is probably incredible with a Surface, but I don't have that. I could use Add notes if my line of work called for it, but I would constantly have the feeling that "this suite of tools isn't meant for MY computer." That's a really bad feeling to have.
I had planned on talking about the existing sharing options available in Add notes, but I don't use the tool myself, so let's move on to the third and final part of this text monolith:
Bugs.
Add notes in Classic Edge is really buggy. I have experimented with add notes for about an hour for the first time in over a year, and I've discovered that:
The back and forwards buttons will only mirror the action of the left mouse button after you've left clicked on the page at least once.
If you open and close Add notes on the New tab page, the page's loading circle will spin for 30 or more seconds.
The new tab page isn't supposed to ever display a loading circle.
If you activate Add notes on a secondary display of comparatively lower resolution, a massive empty space will be included with your notes experience, free of charge.
Do you want fries with that? This blank area is even included in exports.
Add notes takes a quick screenshot of the existing page when it's launched. There is an instant while the Add notes toolbar is initializing where you can drag and drop that screenshot instead of drawing on top of it.
Sometimes when you take a clip, it shows up in your clipboard as a blank gray square. I'm not posting it here because I fear it will break this post.
If you save or share your work, any ink already on the page will be converted into a png. Not only does this dramatically lower the quality of the ink by blurring the edges, but it makes the ink permanent - it can't be erased without closing and reopening Add notes.
Why am I making a laundry list bug report about software that may never be updated again? Because the Microsoft Edge team spent YEARS trying to fix these issues. Some people in this comment section are now expecting feature parity, without serious bugs, in two months. TWO MONTHS?!? That's not possible! Classic Edge's stability was, at least for me, legendarily awful. Yeah, I loved the favorites menu and the download manager and Cortana integration, but I often had to open up Chrome when submitting homework or doing anything that absolutely wasn't allowed to crash. I think we have made ourselves abundantly clear that Edge "is" everything detailed in this handy checklist: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/microsoft-edge but more than anything we "need" a browser that won't self-destruct when we try to do basic things like drag tabs up above the address bar. (yes, that was a real, easy to reproduce bug on the stable version of Edge Classic that came with Windows 1803 or 1809, I don't remember which...) The Edge development team has been choosing their battles of what to focus on for launch in January; in my opinion, they've been choosing those battles very wisely. I would rather not have another glass mansion of unusable features, even if that means having only a solid foundation for now.
- Spoiler
WolfIcefang wrote:There's a lot of talk here about Microsoft in general, about Microsoft Edge Insider being worse than its classic counterpart, and about the need to be feature-identical at launch. (and... about Android?)
I want to preface my response to your question by saying that I never used Inking on a daily basis; in fact, I've never used the feature at all beyond "seeing how it works". I'm not going to argue against it being added into the New Edge. It's one of the top pieces of feedback, and I can definitely see how it would be useful for people in lines of work other than mine. I can, however, talk about something remarkably similar to Add notes: Snip and Sketch. I use that tool multiple times a day, often to highlight graphical inconsistencies with Edge Canary that can't be captured with Send feedback's built in screenshot tools.
There are a lot of clever features in Add notes that I'd love to see in Snip and Sketch, and vice versa. I love that text notes are shown as bubbles with just a number, with the text displayed off to the side during an export. That would be a perfect addition to Snip and Sketch. It also turns out that I'm a huge fan of the clip functionality. Scrolling through the webpage while dragging a screenshot box? That's fantastic! There are definitely some things in Snip and Sketch which would greatly benefit the next Add Notes in Edge. Undo and Redo are always nice to have. A crop tool would be good for websites that don't work with Reading view. Zoom would be a great addition. Sure, multitouch zoom works in a pinch, but there's no "reset to actual size" button and if you use the keyboard to zoom in and out, good luck finding 100% again. There are of course the more pedestrian functions: Draw, Highlight, and Erase. Add notes can't live without them, even though I'm not able to aptly use them myself.
And let's talk about my "inability to use them" for a minute, shall we? Add Notes and Snip and Sketch are designed HEAVILY around pen based input. I don't own a Surface. I don't own a convertible laptop. Sure, I have a touch screen, but it isn't pen compatible. My primary form of input is a keyboard and mouse; I often use my laptop in a "docked" state. Add notes is nowhere near as bad as Snip and Sketch because it has the incredibly good text box tool that I never knew I needed, but the basic drawing is really, really bad. There are no shapes and no ways to draw a straight line. One would think that maybe there would be a dedicated tool, but no. Perhaps holding ctrl, shift, alt, or one of the other 102 keys on my keyboard would enable straight line mode? No! If I try to make an arrow or a box to indicate something's importance, it's going to look like a 5 year old with a coloring book. What about the highlighter? Well, it doesn't snap to text, so you're either going to use it carefully (slowly), or deal with another inaccurate squiggle. The eraser tool is fine, right? Sure, it's fine, but it's not great. You can't right click to erase. You can flip a surface pen over to use the eraser instantly (I'm only assuming because, again, I can't do that myself.), but you can't right click to get the same effect at the same speed. My mouse is special, it has back and and forwards buttons. Normally, these buttons would undo and redo actions. In Add notes, and also in Snip and Sketch, these awesome buttons do whatever the primary click button does. Why? Why do this? Right click doesn't do anything, which means you people had to decide to program this in! So yeah. Add notes is probably incredible with a Surface, but I don't have that. I could use Add notes if my line of work called for it, but I would constantly have the feeling that "this suite of tools isn't meant for MY computer." That's a really bad feeling to have.
I had planned on talking about the existing sharing options available in Add notes, but I don't use the tool myself, so let's move on to the third and final part of this text monolith:
Bugs.
Add notes in Classic Edge is really buggy. I have experimented with add notes for about an hour for the first time in over a year, and I've discovered that:
The back and forwards buttons will only mirror the action of the left mouse button after you've left clicked on the page at least once.
If you open and close Add notes on the New tab page, the page's loading circle will spin for 30 or more seconds.
The new tab page isn't supposed to ever display a loading circle.
If you activate Add notes on a secondary display of comparatively lower resolution, a massive empty space will be included with your notes experience, free of charge.
Do you want fries with that? This blank area is even included in exports.
Add notes takes a quick screenshot of the existing page when it's launched. There is an instant while the Add notes toolbar is initializing where you can drag and drop that screenshot instead of drawing on top of it.
Sometimes when you take a clip, it shows up in your clipboard as a blank gray square. I'm not posting it here because I fear it will break this post.
If you save or share your work, any ink already on the page will be converted into a png. Not only does this dramatically lower the quality of the ink by blurring the edges, but it makes the ink permanent - it can't be erased without closing and reopening Add notes.
Why am I making a laundry list bug report about software that may never be updated again? Because the Microsoft Edge team spent YEARS trying to fix these issues. Some people in this comment section are now expecting feature parity, without serious bugs, in two months. TWO MONTHS?!? That's not possible! Classic Edge's stability was, at least for me, legendarily awful. Yeah, I loved the favorites menu and the download manager and Cortana integration, but I often had to open up Chrome when submitting homework or doing anything that absolutely wasn't allowed to crash. I think we have made ourselves abundantly clear that Edge "is" everything detailed in this handy checklist: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/microsoft-edge but more than anything we "need" a browser that won't self-destruct when we try to do basic things like drag tabs up above the address bar. (yes, that was a real, easy to reproduce bug on the stable version of Edge Classic that came with Windows 1803 or 1809, I don't remember which...) The Edge development team has been choosing their battles of what to focus on for launch in January; in my opinion, they've been choosing those battles very wisely. I would rather not have another glass mansion of unusable features, even if that means having only a solid foundation for now.
I also felt the need to writes notes in screenshots I take with Snip & Sketch too.
I use mouse + KB, no touch at all. if i wanted to write something on my screenshots, I would need to do it with mouse and it looks ugly and barely readable.
the add notes functionality in the Edge classic sounds good to be added to Snip & Sketch.I just created a feedback for it in Feedbacks hub app, feel free to upvote it, add more details and screenshots to make them understand what we are exactly referring to. I myself added a screenshot of how Edge classic lets us add small sticky notes to the screenshot.
here is the feedback:
- WolfIcefangIron Contributor
I'd love to add details to your suggestion, but my Feedback Hub won't let me access your feedback. I've been having various issues with Feedback Hub; even Resetting the application from Windows Settings didn't help. Could you tell me the title of your feedback so that I can search for it?
- Drew1903Silver Contributor
WolfIcefang
Ctrl+0 (zero) will put Zoom, + or -, back to 100%.
Cheers,
Drew- WolfIcefangIron ContributorOh yeah; I kind of forgot about that. 😅
- MattBDevBrass Contributor
Elliot Kirk I used all the features for web ink on the current version of Edge. It helped me highlight and underline webpages for some homework assignments. I didn't need to print out the paper because of the web inking abilities. I didn't use comments too much but I know it is a feature many people used. I liked that I could favorite my web notes or save them to OneNote. I also used the feature to quickly annotate something on a page to share with someone else over email or chat. I know that Snip & Sketch offers that ability but that app doesn't let you scroll up and down a web page and use ink on the page. That was a big advantage. I was very disappointed that inking was put on the backlog and is now being re-evaluated. If all of the web ink abilities from the current version of edge came to the new version of edge I would be extremely happy.
- Elliot KirkSilver Contributor
This is great, MattBDev! When you add notes, do you tend to type with a keyboard, use a pen, or use your finger? How often did you find yourself using this feature? If you could magically add to the feature as it is in the current version of Microsoft Edge, what would you change? Thanks - Elliot
- DanielBlystoneCopper Contributor
I have been teaching the teachers at my school on how to use the markup tool to highlight web pages they are showing their classes. They can markup the page ahead of time and bring it up on the classroom touch screen during class. When they are done they can save any comments and markups and send the whole thing to their class via email or post it in One Note. There were several sites that did not play nice with the classic Edge but work well with the New Edge. I would love to have this as an option for all of the teachers as we are migrating to an all Surface fleet of laptops for the teachers.
- Elliot KirkSilver Contributor
Hi DanielBlystone, this is a great example of using the feature. Can you tell me if the teachers in your school ever need to grab a site on mobile to then share it on desktop? We would be interested in knowing which sites have problems with the current version of Microsoft Edge. Do your students ever need to add additional markup to the pages and or share them back and forth? Thanks - Elliot
- JHRussell1972Brass Contributor
I wrote OneNote 2013 For Dummies and was curious when I saw this, so decided to check it out on my new Surface. Overall there doesn't seem to be a ton of info available obviously from the feature to make it make sense to me, but from what I can tell it just freezes the page in a way and lets you write on it.
This leads me to why this feature isn't OneNote, not Windows. It belongs in OneNote. One reason my book hasn't sold and people haven't used OneNote enough is the lack of integration into the operating system. Sticky Notes seem totally redundant to OneNote.
So, that said, if the feature moves forward I think it needs to be an extension handled by OneNote, which already includes this functionality.
As to its usefulness: the ability to mark up a page is obviously killer, but I'm not sure how it's implemented from my brief usage. Is it a screenshot of the page you're marking up?
Either way I think the feature obviously needs to move forward, but I'd let it be a OneNote addition. This would have the benefit of not having to recreate the entire feature within Linux.
- SenorSopaBrass ContributorIt serves a different purpose. I don't want to move a small picture into a different program. I want to be able to make a mark-up on the website I am looking at at the time. Often I don't even save, it's just for my own use at the moment. I don't want to jump back and forth between programs.
If Microsoft hadn't made this possible in the first place that would be one thing, but when you sell a device (Surface) with this as a feature, it is like a bait and switch. - konthuruthyj05Brass Contributor
JHRussell1972 The feature is not a screenshot but rather the website with temporary changes, you can click scroll button to scroll page and then share, it becomes snapshot of site including temporary changes(i.e. the inking) when shared, it will be useful on Edge Chromium as it supports PDF displaying in the browser so you could take the PDF, annotate it with text or inking, highlight, etcetera, all in the browser, which would be very helpful to Students who can send in a PDF file with their own annotations in inking which is sometimes faster to display mathematical/scientific characters, without copy pasting or using Alt(ASCII) Code/Unicode, quite often time consuming, during this lockdown time.
- Drew1903Silver Contributor
JHRussell1972
2 points:
1. Whatever one grabs to share with Add notes can be directed to OneNote. So, they, already, DO work harmoniously.
2. It is wrong or certainly, incomplete to think of it as a 'screen or page grabber'. Web pages have heaps of stuff on them. If & when one cares to keep & or share a part of a page Add notes rises to the occasion. That "part" can be a recipe, an image, a piece of text, free-form AND THEN... one can draw, highlight, different colours & thickness, compose text ("This recipe sounds good.") Remember the recipe? It's like having a built-in Snip & Sketch... one can crop, print and more. It's terrific and invaluable!
Maybe, if & when one, in current Edge, uses Add notes and Share a wee bit, one suddenly understands & appreciates it & wants it a whole lot.
Cheers,
Drew- JHRussell1972Brass Contributor
Obviously it's necessary to be able to mark up a web page, but also obviously you need to take a screen capture of it to do it. My point is that it can't be hard to recreate the feature, given it is so simple. Drew1903
- IndustrialAutomationBrass Contributor
Elliot Kirk This boils down to trust and it affects the whole of Microsoft, not just Edge. You build a platform, we invest in it and you abandon it. If we have to put up with that then we might as well use FOSS. You screwed us on Silverlight, then on Windows Phone. It looks suspiciously like the same thing is going to happen to WinIOT. Using the pen to mark up web pages is a value proposition that sets a Surface apart from lesser convertibles. The pen is worthless without platform integration. If you remove it the way you removed voice control of music from my Windows Phone, then tell me why I shouldn't ask for a refund?
IndustrialAutomation wrote:Elliot Kirk This boils down to trust and it affects the whole of Microsoft, not just Edge. You build a platform, we invest in it and you abandon it. If we have to put up with that then we might as well use FOSS. You screwed us on Silverlight, then on Windows Phone. It looks suspiciously like the same thing is going to happen to WinIOT. Using the pen to mark up web pages is a value proposition that sets a Surface apart from lesser convertibles. The pen is worthless without platform integration. If you remove it the way you removed voice control of music from my Windows Phone, then tell me why I shouldn't ask for a refund?
Windows phone was destined to lose..I could tell it from the beginning. comparing how Android was taking over the market in such a fast pace..it's actually one of the things that Bill Gates very much regrets about and he himself confessed it, that why Microsoft didn't build something like Android first and instead let Google do it.
- JordanQIron Contributor
HotCakeX Maybe, but Windows Phone was way better than Android. Way better. In fact, Windows Phone then was still better than Android is now. I know because I use Android. So yeah, Microsoft could have made an iPhone clone like Google did, and that system may have succeeded. But I'm glad they tried to do something different and ahead of its time. Problem was that it was too late to the party and the ecosystems were already too established.
- Drew1903Silver Contributor
IndustrialAutomation
I must say (add) as one reads the comments in here, all saying the same thing, BTW.
"Continue Edge features & functionality" <-- That's the nutshell, Reader's Digest version. Whether Add notes, Share (beside not, buried in the ellipsis), Reading list, a proper group w/ , Set Aside or a complete set of Reading view Tools.
This is stuff that makes Edge special, that draws Users to it. HELLOOoooo. This is stuff people take for granted as "standard equipment" for Edge. This is stuff PEOPLE know (Read: familiar), use AND LIKE! And like it the way it is, ALREADY... as in, leave well enough alone, don't re-invent the wheel. Make the guts better, make the guts the world's best... we'll love it and adopt it... BUT, don't mess with the mechanics. We like how it's laid out and how it works, on the surface, it's quite comfy... go nuts under the covers
At least, tell us the Edge features & functionality WILL be there. There's 2 months to go & we, still, do not see some basic requirements, the MUST HAVEs, the MUST KEEPs. The natives grow restless. Give a light at the end of the tunnel. It's not stuff to discuss. Has to exist as, it does, now. Edge MUST maintain the features & functionality it has, now; Even if, on a better performing Platform.
NB: Having Share w/out Add notes makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. W/out Add notes all one can 'share' from a web page is its URL. One of the Stars of Edge is that built in anything from a page can be, both, shared AND marked-up! That's why their icons sit side-by-side on the Edge Toolbar . Hello, they work together and they work well for people! Unless they are not there, then, the people will rebel.
Cheers,
Drew- Spoiler
Drew1903 wrote:I must say (add) as one reads the comments in here, all saying the same thing, BTW.
"Continue Edge features & functionality" <-- That's the nutshell, Reader's Digest version. Whether Add notes, Share (beside not, buried in the ellipsis), Reading list, a proper group w/ , Set Aside or a complete set of Reading view Tools.
This is stuff that makes Edge special, that draws Users to it. HELLOOoooo. This is stuff people take for granted as "standard equipment" for Edge. This is stuff PEOPLE know (Read: familiar), use AND LIKE! And like it the way it is, ALREADY... as in, leave well enough alone, don't re-invent the wheel. Make the guts better, make the guts the world's best... we'll love it and adopt it... BUT, don't mess with the mechanics. We like how it's laid out and how it works, on the surface, it's quite comfy... go nuts under the covers
At least, tell us the Edge features & functionality WILL be there. There's 2 months to go & we, still, do not see some basic requirements, the MUST HAVEs, the MUST KEEPs. The natives grow restless. Give a light at the end of the tunnel. It's not stuff to discuss. Has to exist as, it does, now. Edge MUST maintain the features & functionality it has, now; Even if, on a better performing Platform.what Edge team is doing is reevaluating the Edge functionalities. they are trying to get more context. maybe there needs to be changes made to how Edge classic functionalities and features work, so instead of applying them to the new Edge, they could improve on them and add even something new.