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Elliot Kirk
Microsoft
Nov 13, 2019Inking on Web Pages - Discussion
We have received a lot of feedback about supporting inking annotations for web pages like what we have in the current version of Microsoft Edge. Many users have told us that they use this functionali...
HotCakeX
Nov 14, 2019MVP
IndustrialAutomation wrote:Elliot Kirk This boils down to trust and it affects the whole of Microsoft, not just Edge. You build a platform, we invest in it and you abandon it. If we have to put up with that then we might as well use FOSS. You screwed us on Silverlight, then on Windows Phone. It looks suspiciously like the same thing is going to happen to WinIOT. Using the pen to mark up web pages is a value proposition that sets a Surface apart from lesser convertibles. The pen is worthless without platform integration. If you remove it the way you removed voice control of music from my Windows Phone, then tell me why I shouldn't ask for a refund?
Windows phone was destined to lose..I could tell it from the beginning. comparing how Android was taking over the market in such a fast pace..it's actually one of the things that Bill Gates very much regrets about and he himself confessed it, that why Microsoft didn't build something like Android first and instead let Google do it.
IndustrialAutomation
Nov 14, 2019Brass Contributor
HotCakeX Yes, I understand what went wrong there. It is nothing short of tragedy that Windows Phone lost out precisely because Microsoft tried to do a proper job of it instead of rushing a lashed-up **bleep**fight to market the way Google did.
But I'm sure you'll understand that I'm not pleased that every time I get an update, performance gets worse, features are pulled and battery life gets worse. I'd roll the last four updates back if I could.
- HotCakeXNov 14, 2019MVP
IndustrialAutomation wrote:HotCakeX Yes, I understand what went wrong there. It is nothing short of tragedy that Windows Phone lost out precisely because Microsoft tried to do a proper job of it instead of rushing a lashed-up **bleep**fight to market the way Google did.
But I'm sure you'll understand that I'm not pleased that every time I get an update, performance gets worse, features are pulled and battery life gets worse. I'd roll the last four updates back if I could.
I think Nokia was doomed lol
Finnish people were not very happy after an American company (Microsoft) bought their company (Nokia).
I'm kinda 50/50 about the new surface phone too. the one that has dual screen and runs Windows 10X.
I had heard before that it's going to run both Android and Windows 10X, not only Windows.
it's really great that it has Windows 10 but there are certain Android apps that are necessary on-the-go and they are not available on Windows store to install.
I could use an Android emulator but that's too much performance to sacrifice.
about the updates that you talked about, are they Windows 10 updates or Edge insider updates?
- Drew1903Nov 14, 2019Silver Contributor
IndustrialAutomation
BTW, I have a Windows Mobile which, I, actually, really, like. It's not my 1st, either. Grabbed a Windows Mobile soon as they came available... and, stuck with them. And it, a Windows Mobile, still, does just fine, for me. The Mobile's OS updates rather than, having to update the Mobile, itself, too.
Cheers,
Drew- HotCakeXNov 14, 2019MVP
Good for you,
the apps and the compatibility level with other devices that I need only come with Android OS, which is Open source.companies don't need to seek permission to put Android on their phones. one of them is Huawei which created the best and most powerful phones in the world and they manufacture their phones without Google services or relying even one bit on Google. that's a great thing. to have full control over your product.
- IndustrialAutomationNov 14, 2019Brass Contributor
HotCakeX Android was an excellent proof of concept and a terrible production implementation. The timeslice management is inappropriate for a portable device. The strategy introduced by Windows Phone and adopted by Apple is much better. Nevertheless, even on these systems, built-in software not implemented as an app is outside the law and can misbehave when inadequately tested.
The right solution is an RTOS with an app sandbox. Curiously, Microsoft just bought an RTOS, or the rights to use one (I'm not clear on that).