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MicrosoftWelcome to the Microsoft Edge Insiders community
Hello Microsoft Edge Insiders!
Ever since we first announced in December that Microsoft Edge was going to adopt the Chromium open source project for our desktop browser, we’ve been excited to begin launching our Insider community. The time has finally come, and everyone can try out the new version of the browser right now!
We want to use this opportunity to start building a close relationship with all of you. Going beyond collecting comments and reviews, we’re eager to listen and engage in active conversations with you. We believe your collective voices will help us build a better Microsoft Edge, and that’s our vision for this community.
With our recent adoption of Chromium, Microsoft Edge gets a chance to grow beyond its initial home on Windows 10. As we’ve reflected on the best ways to enable a new listening system to support other versions of Windows and platforms, we’ve realized that our goals should be based on what we want as customers, not as engineers or designers.
What would such a system look like? That’s where all of you come in. Based on the feedback you’ve graciously given us over the past few years, we know it’s important to be able to quickly and easily send us problems or suggestions from directly within the browser. You also want a way to engage meaningfully and deeply with the developers, as well as a way to get immediate support when you run into a problem that you can’t fix on your own.
Other Insider programs at Microsoft have provided good models for us to follow for our new community. However, the Microsoft Edge Insider community has one important difference: you don’t need to sign up. Just downloading and using the Microsoft Edge Canary, Dev, or Beta channels is enough.
We hope that this relationship can be beneficial for both parties. For you, this isn’t just about being a member of an active group of fellow browser enthusiasts. You also get: a chance to see new features before all the other Microsoft Edge users; an in-depth understanding of how and why we built them, a direct channel of communication with the engineers responsible for them, and the chance to critique them and suggest what we should build next. We at Microsoft get valuable early feedback, your verbal and written insights about what you do and don't like about a given feature or approach, which will help us steer the product in the right direction. The ability to dig deeper and understand the why behind the what, while learning from a large and diverse worldwide audience. Finally, through our continuing conversations, we hope Insiders will invite others in their own communities to come and join in our conversation.
So, what can you expect from us? As our new features start making their way into the builds, our goal is to publish at least one new article every other week to inform and encourage active discussions on the latest developments in the Insider channels. We are devoting some of our time to reading and responding to every thread, and you can expect direct interaction from the Microsoft Edge team that promotes the deepest, most enlightening discussions.
We’re fully committed to building an open, honest and respectful community of awesome Insiders like you. We hope you’ll join our discussions or start your own today.
Welcome to our community. We can’t wait to build a great Edge community together!
-The Microsoft Edge Team-
- Are you going to add the pen notes facility from Edge classic? This is something i use all the time. On a surface. You're removing a feature ideally suied to hardware you make.
Mace242
There are heaps of things this does not have, yet. A Favs star, Reading view, Web notes and so much more. It is tough, right now, to know what to say is missing, wanted, needed OR not done YET. Oodles of familiar Features & Functionality isn't there. What IS there is ok & the performance seems good. Personally, I keep hoping (Read: expecting) we'll have the rest, anon.
Cheers,
DrewI could no connect to my old WD Cloud Drive with previous version of Edge.
Had to goto Goggle, now I can can connect using new edge!
Grate Update!
Bob Mauk
Love what you guys are doing! Keep up the good work, loving the new Chromium Edge! Elliot Kirk
- Elliot KirkThank you SalmanMKC. Please keep using the new browser and let us know what you think.
Elliot
Fluent design and auto-loading of the next page are the two features that i missed from the old Edge
EDIT: The correct name for the feature is "Page prediction"
- Elliot KirkPsycOwl, Thank you for the feedback. I am not sure that I completely understand the auto-loading of the next page comment. Can you explain a little more what you are looking for?
Thanks,
ElliotWhen you scroll to bottom of the page, if there is a next page like the one in the picture, Edge preloads the next page and when you press the forward button from mouse thumb buttons, Edge goes forward to that page
EDIT: The correct name of that feature is "page prediction"
Will there be plans for controlling Microsoft Edge (Chromium) via Group Policy? How do we get involved in knowing what that will look like? Elliot Kirk
- Elliot KirkYes, we will be talking more about the group policy story soon. I think that this forum will be the place where we introduce those features as they are released. Do you have any specific concerns or needs from a management perspective, Magdev?
Forcing safe searches is an important management option for our school district. We would also like to have a way to control which extensions are or are not available for install by student users. Elliot Kirk
Magdev+1 for the Group Policies. We are very much awaiting the new Edge but for management reasons in a rather big network we need to have Group Policies including policies for the planned IE-Tab.
And - important for automatic installations - please provide an MSI instead of a Setup.exe (or besides...)
Please improve the scrolling speed as it is too sensitive for the touchpad of the laptop(by default).One suggession from my side is that the microsoft edge is an official browser of windows 10, so try and make its UI similer to that of windows 10 for instace:- The glowing of the borders while hover any tile in notification tab or in the settings with mouse, the dark mode and the introduction of the CORTANA, in the search bar. Although it has improved a lot more than before, Thanks to the whole microsoft team for doing such a hardwork and to make things best for their customers.
- Please don't change the mouse scroll though. It's perfect how it is and the OG Edge mouse wheel scrolling was very jerky.
- I just noticed that pin to start and pin to taskbar are missing. But for some reason pin to DESKTOP!??!?!??! has been added.
- Elliot KirkIf you were to rank them in order of importance, Mace242, what would it look like?
ElliotI think that the things that made Edge unique should be put back as a matter of urgency. I woild say this is the order
1. Fluent UI. The UI is basically chrome at the moment. The tabs are ugly and the start menu as a web page, as with chrome is clunky and hard to navigate. Having to do a find in page to find settings is horrible. Chrome tabs are ugly and contrary to the rest of the Windows 10 ui.
2. Pen interraction. Surface devices make a big deal about the pen and they are arguably one of the biggest appeals as MS devices. Annotation using the pen is a big draw for Edge.
3. Pin to start menu and pin to taskbar. These are features of windows 10. Without them and other similar features what we are seeing is an Edge that doesn't really fit into windows 10 as part of the eco system.
4. History. Look at the brilliant flyout that you get in old Edge. The chrome history menu is terrible in comparison. Same with downloads and favourites.
5. Tab previews and set aside. Again features unique to Edge that have gone.
I wonder if any of these things are going to ever be put back. TBH the current preview looks a bit, for want of a better word, lazy. Anyone with development experience could knock together the Egde preview given a copy of the chromium source. I say you get the people responsible for the decisions on the original egde design and ui to have input into the preview.
There is very, very little to recomment it over Chrome at the moment. In particular you will have a lag between updates chromium and them being released into the new edge. If a lot doesn't change then I can see that you will actually lose share to Chrome, rather than get more. In particular when you look at other chromium based browsers, such as Brave that seem to offer a few more features, such as inbuild security and blocking.
I've recently swapped to Outlook and Edge on all my devices, including Android but wihtout a lot of changes I can see that decision being reversed when new Edge goes live.
I think a lot of this is fairly common to those posting here and some kind of developmen schedule would go a long way to easing our fears. It doesn't have to be in depth or detailed. Something like a checklist saying yes or no to fluent ui, yes or no to pen note support, etc.
A final note.... It does seem to perform better than Chrome. But performance isn't everything. People wouldn't like driving a ferrari if the seats were made of stone and metal spikes....
From the moment I downloaded and installed Microsoft Edge this morning, first impressions are - this is a totally different beast. Even at this stage the navigation, look and feel - simplicity of importing Chrome information and the quick responsiveness of web page uploads makes me feel excited about the possibilities of Edge as a browser. I have always felt frustrated about using Windows 10, Office but using Chrome out of necessity. Based on my first look under the hood, think Microsoft has birthed a winner. Looking forward to putting it through its paces.
- Elliot KirkThank you, mindlogik. I hope that we keep meeting or exceeding your expectations. Please let us know either way.
Elliot
- Will you add Linux support?
2125-futuremonkey+1 for Linux support
Changing the default search is way too convoluted. Popular search engines should already be populated in a list instead of having to visit them and discovering them.
Also, I see that smooth scrolling is coming in future builds but please make a way for the user to disable this feature. I could never use the previous Edge since using smooth scrolling on a scroll wheel is extremely frustrating. The scrolling doesn't remain precise and there's always a feeling of lag. It's great for touchscreens but horrible to use with a mouse.
- Elliot KirkGreat feedback. Thank you for taking the time to give it to us. I will make sure that the folks working on Search and the interface get this feedback.
Thanks,
Elliot it would be great if we are able to change the search engine also on the first page, not only in the address bar.
Fabrizio
- Elliot KirkGreat feedback, Grisu70
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Interesting. I have never had an issue with using the scroll-wheel in previous Edge. That is on several systems with a different mouse on each. However, each mouse is Logitech with the hyper-scroll function. Whether the scroll is free-wheeling or has the indented scroll turned on.
Other than the feeling of lag you mention, are there other issues?
Deleted wrote:I could never use the previous Edge since using smooth scrolling on a scroll wheel is extremely frustrating. The scrolling doesn't remain precise and there's always a feeling of lag. It's great for touchscreens but horrible to use with a mouse.
Darrell Shannon I think it's just the way smooth scrolling is desgined that makes it difficult for me to use it. In non smooth scrolling for example, the page stops scrolling as soon as you stop scrolling on the scroll wheel, but with smooth scrolling the scrolling continues on for about a quarter to half a second.
Elliot Kirk Just asking another question, will the new Edge based on Chromium will work with Windows Timeline? Or for now, can we install the Web Activities from the Chrome Web store?
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Have you tested this w/ it as the default browser? I'm trying that now, myself.
